The Original Professional Services Marketing Podcast

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Divergent Thinking on Marketing Professional Services Firms
Jason Mlicki and Jeff McKay explore growth, marketing, and professional services in this engaging weekly podcast. They tackle the challenges faced by practice leaders and marketers, sharing unfiltered opinions on what not to do, the pitfalls of marketing, and the realities of the industry. With executive guests and industry experts regularly joining, listeners gain valuable insights and experiences, all presented with humor and a pragmatic perspective from two seasoned professionals.

Your Hosts

Jason Mlicki
Principal, Rattleback
Jason is Principal of Rattleback, a recognized leader in professional services marketing.

Jeff McKay
Founder and CEO, Prudent Pedal
A former professional services CMO, Jeff founded fractional CMO and strategy consultancy, Prudent Pedal.
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